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    Dimensions of Pain

    Post  Den on Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:54 pm

    Reposting the topic.

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    loneliness
    loss
    shame
    fear
    betrayed
    empathy

    All of these pains have to do with [the self] and "bonds", things that are special to you. People are usually the strongest bonds with most effect. "Death" is usually the greatest causer of one feeling pain.

    Empathy is feeling the pain of a bond.
    Shame is the fault of a bond's pain.
    Fear is the pain for oneself or a bond.
    Betrayed is the pain of being cheated by a bond.
    Loss is the pain of losing a bond.
    Loneliness is the pain of having no bonds (in general or to a particular kind of bond).


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    Re: Dimensions of Pain

    Post  LokiBeragist on Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:11 pm

    Irrational pain D<


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    Post  Treble on Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:55 pm

    LokiBeragist wrote:Irrational pain D<

    Not one at all...lol

    Shock? Like, when you hear somebody died.
    Before that loss or anything can set in, just the shock of what you hear
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    Post  Den on Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:23 pm

    Originally I thought that might be one, but it's a thing that lasts only seconds. It doesn't envelop the person like shame, loss or fear does over a long period of time.


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    Post  LokiBeragist on Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:32 am

    I disagree, Irrational pain is pain that doesnt exist but you believe it does.

    Trust me. It's real.


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    Post  Den on Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:04 am

    I was talking to Ferret. =P And I do know that irrational pain does exist, but don't you think that irrational pain might be more of a "glitch" in the system and might just take form of the six pains? Like, irrationally shamed, or fearful.


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    Post  sleeepygoron on Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:48 am

    Den wrote:I was talking to Ferret. =P And I do know that irrational pain does exist, but don't you think that irrational pain might be more of a "glitch" in the system and might just take form of the six pains? Like, irrationally shamed, or fearful.

    Then I guess some people including meself, have lotsa glitches.

    Yes, i know, I am of no help. I still must speak to my all-knowing sister at home. My dad gave up trying to argue with me about pain. (hehe)
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    Post  LokiBeragist on Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:22 pm

    Den wrote:I was talking to Ferret. =P And I do know that irrational pain does exist, but don't you think that irrational pain might be more of a "glitch" in the system and might just take form of the six pains? Like, irrationally shamed, or fearful.

    Actually that was to ferret, my dumb ass wasnt logged in and was all O_O because I couldnt find quote x3


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    Post  LokiBeragist on Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:24 pm

    Oh And dont forget humiliation and failure. Im thinking myself around them because They can be triggers and reactions that share or result in pain. This one Id like for someone to concrit x3


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    Post  Den on Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:09 pm

    LokiBeragist wrote:Oh And dont forget humiliation and failure. Im thinking myself around them because They can be triggers and reactions that share or result in pain. This one Id like for someone to concrit x3

    The category of shame is broader than the word suggests. Shame deals with anything that has to do with the self:

    guilt, shame, failure, humiliation, et cetera. It's usually involving self-dislike, pride, and the like.


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    Post  LokiBeragist on Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:39 pm

    Den wrote:
    LokiBeragist wrote:Oh And dont forget humiliation and failure. Im thinking myself around them because They can be triggers and reactions that share or result in pain. This one Id like for someone to concrit x3

    The category of shame is broader than the word suggests. Shame deals with anything that has to do with the self:

    guilt, shame, failure, humiliation, et cetera. It's usually involving self-dislike, pride, and the like.

    Okay ^^ Gotcha.


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    Post  Treble on Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:53 pm

    Den wrote:
    LokiBeragist wrote:Oh And dont forget humiliation and failure. Im thinking myself around them because They can be triggers and reactions that share or result in pain. This one Id like for someone to concrit x3

    The category of shame is broader than the word suggests. Shame deals with anything that has to do with the self:

    guilt, shame, failure, humiliation, et cetera. It's usually involving self-dislike, pride, and the like.

    But, I find failure different. Its not shame, more of loss.

    Mike:
    Pain is perspective. If you think your in pain, no matter how illogical, its pain
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    Post  Den on Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:17 am

    Treble wrote:
    Den wrote:
    LokiBeragist wrote:Oh And dont forget humiliation and failure. Im thinking myself around them because They can be triggers and reactions that share or result in pain. This one Id like for someone to concrit x3

    The category of shame is broader than the word suggests. Shame deals with anything that has to do with the self:

    guilt, shame, failure, humiliation, et cetera. It's usually involving self-dislike, pride, and the like.

    But, I find failure different. Its not shame, more of loss.

    Mike:
    Pain is perspective. If you think your in pain, no matter how illogical, its pain

    If you're feeling failure, that may lead to an inadequacy you see in yourself. If you do not feel shamed, then you are being betrayed (betrayed by fate: "It's not fair!" is loosely thrown in the direction of no one, thus fate) or feeling loss "losing something important, a bond: your ability). So honestly, it could go in several categories, so when I say failure in "shame", I mean the feeling of inadequacy.

    There's a metasystem of pain in my list that I haven't got through, and the multiple looks on failure are testament to that. If you guys want to fill that out as well, go the hell ahead. Here are the words I've chosen to represent each group:

    Trepidus
    fear, horror, trepidation, shock, anxiety

    Animosus
    Empathy, sympathy

    Solus
    loneliness

    Interitus
    Loss

    Desertus
    Betrayed, sudden change, challenged

    Dedecus
    shame, inadequacy, guilt


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    Post  Treble on Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:52 pm

    Using those 6 things would be a great plotline for a story...
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    Post  Den on Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:58 pm

    Yeah, I know. =P Don't you remember? This pain system is the core of my book's plot. haha


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    Post  LokiBeragist on Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:25 am

    I like Trepidus best c:


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    Post  Den on Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:00 pm

    LokiBeragist wrote:I like Trepidus best c:

    Personally, I'm fond of them all. I like the sound of Solus the most though. Dedecus, I find I can relate to the most.


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    Post  Treble on Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:31 am

    Den wrote:
    LokiBeragist wrote:I like Trepidus best c:

    Personally, I'm fond of them all. I like the sound of Solus the most though. Dedecus, I find I can relate to the most.

    I like the way Solus looks the most, but, Dedecus sounds the best to me.
    I most relate to Desertus and Trepidus
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    Post  sleeepygoron on Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:39 am

    I relate to hunger pains the bestest. ^_^ I'm always hungry...


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    Post  LokiBeragist on Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:02 pm

    sleeepygoron wrote:I relate to hunger pains the bestest. ^_^ I'm always hungry...

    That just made me happy xD


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    Post  Treble on Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:14 pm

    "Real loss is only possible when you love something more than you love yourself."
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    Post  sleeepygoron on Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:12 pm

    Treble wrote:"Real loss is only possible when you love something more than you love yourself."

    So I love food more than myself?

    Anyway, it's a good quote. Razz I just couldn't help myself.


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    Post  LokiBeragist on Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:12 pm

    Treble wrote:"Real loss is only possible when you love something more than you love yourself."

    Suicide~


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    Post  Den on Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:54 pm

    I just thought, I hope you guys know how to pronounce those latin words; otherwise, they'll have less or more appeal to you.

    Either way, it seems you're all accepting the dimensions of pain I've come up with? Or are satisfied for the most part?
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    Post  Treble on Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:44 pm

    Den wrote:I just thought, I hope you guys know how to pronounce those latin words; otherwise, they'll have less or more appeal to you.

    Either way, it seems you're all accepting the dimensions of pain I've come up with? Or are satisfied for the most part?

    I really think there should be a category for physical pain
    Because in a way, it is a type of pain inside your brain

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